13:37:41 [Tom
Peters] The Wiki World presentation by Meredith Farkas will begin in approximately 23 minutes at the top of
the hour.
13:47:05
[Meredith Farkas] http://www.libsuccess.org/index.php?title=Wiki_World
13:47:15
[Meredith Farkas] http://www.libsuccess.org/index.php?title=What_is_a_Wiki
13:47:17
[Meredith Farkas] http://www.libsuccess.org/index.php?title=Main_Page
13:49:16
[Meredith Farkas] http://www.libsuccess.org/index.php?title=Wiki_World
13:49:38 [Tom
Peters] The presentation will begin in approximately
11 minutes at the top of the hour.
13:50:57
[Meredith Farkas] Is
everyone seeing the Wiki World page now?
13:51:10
[Phil] yes
13:51:54
[Meredith Farkas] super, just let me know if you
can't see it :)
13:52:15
[Jenkins Law Library] yes - I see it and I hear you too :)
14:05:32
[Meredith Farkas] http://www.libsuccess.org/index.php?title=What_is_a_Wiki
14:07:02
[Helene] how can we access the power point presentation to follow the
presentation
14:09:01 [Rick]
It looks like you just clic the "Continue to What is Wikii?" at bottom of
page.
14:09:16
[Helene] thanks
14:10:19
[Kerri] Can anyone in the world make changes to the Wiki
or is it only people who "belong"?
14:11:12
[Meredith Farkas] http://www.libsuccess.org/index.php?title=Why_Wiki
14:11:27 [Tom
Peters] Everyone in the room can click on the links to
advance the page on your own
14:11:43
[Meredith Farkas] http://www.libsuccess.org/index.php?title=Why_Wiki&action=edit
14:11:55
[Meredith Farkas] http://www.libsuccess.org/index.php?title=Why_Wiki&action=edit
14:12:06 [ron] Tom, I would love a copy of
this presentation.
14:12:14 [ron] Is this possible?
14:12:44 [tao gao]
Can you restrict user accounts in Wikki?
14:13:42
[Meredith Farkas] http://www.libsuccess.org/index.php?title=Why_Wiki
14:13:53 [Chad
Boeninger] try opening up http://www.libsuccess.org/index.php?title=Why_Wiki
in your web browser
14:14:01 [Paul
Lewis] tao gao.
I know PmWiki allows user accounts plus password
protected pages and groups
14:14:14 [Paul
Lewis] http://www.pmwiki.org
14:14:14
[Margaret Hazel] We don't knwo
when you are going to next page - can you tell us when you go?
14:14:33 [tao gao]
Thanks Paul
14:15:07
[Helene] Meredith:
14:15:11 [Daneen] can we receive the powerpoint after the presentation?
14:15:32 [Tom
Peters] It may be that we're overloading the wiki
server. I will create a link to this
presentation in the archive of this session.
14:16:24 [Mary
Paige] I clicked on the Edit tab quite some time ago, and the Edit screen
finally came up - it's just very slow.
14:16:49 [Aaron] Understatement there, MEredith?
14:16:53 [Laralee] I'm getting sound unlv
via headsets
14:18:13
[Margaret Hazel] Can you protect just part of a page or post, and let folks
edit the rest?
14:18:45
[Kerri] Can you restrict Wiki viewing to an internal
institution- i.e. Intranet or Internal Server?
14:19:00
[Aaron] Password protect the access
14:19:07 [Paul
Lewis] Kerri, You betcha!
14:19:17
[Kerri] super!
14:19:37
[Meredith Farkas] http://www.libsuccess.org/index.php?title=How_Libraries_Can_Use
14:20:54
[Meredith Farkas] http://arborwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Pag
e
14:21:14
[Aaron] Do you have a version of the presentation we can each download?
14:21:21
[Meredith Farkas] http://arborwiki.org/city/Streets_of_Ann_Arbor
14:21:27
[Aaron] We apparently have hit a max user issue
14:21:41
[Robin Kear] it is coming up, it's just very slow.
14:21:44
[Aaron] have we lost voice?
14:21:46 [Tom
Peters] I will provide a link to the wiki in the
archive to this session after the conclusion of the program.
14:21:54 [Aaron]
Thanks Tom
14:21:56
[Meredith Farkas] http://www.libsuccess.org/index.php?title=How_Libraries_Can_Use
14:22:00
[Aaron] voice is back :)
14:22:02 [Tom
Peters] yes,
14:22:07
[Paulette] Yes audio is fine
14:22:13
[Leighton] Rochester Wiki is working.
14:22:14
[Laura Dixon] yes we can hear you now
14:22:19 [Plamen] Tom , can you please send
out an email with the archive? I would like to share with my colleagues at the
library.
14:22:23
[Meredith Farkas] http://daviswiki.org/Front_Page
14:22:49
[Meredith Farkas] http://www.libsuccess.org/index.php?title=How_Libraries_Can_Use
14:22:50 [Adam
Bianchi] the problem is that this software causes each of us to load that page,
simultaneously, destroying the respective servers :-(
14:22:53
[Aaron] which wiki?
14:22:56
[Aaron] we can google it
14:23:02
[Aaron] and look while you talk
14:23:07
[Leighton] I loaded the URL in my browser instead of the Auditorium software.
14:23:14 [Tom
Peters] yes, I think we're overloading these servers
14:23:16
[Leighton] http://www.libsuccess.org/index.php?title=Why_Wiki
14:23:16
[Jack] Tom, on a related note, is this audio available as a podcast?
14:23:32
[Austin Evans] Where do you get the software to do the
magic?
14:23:49 [Tom
Peters] Here's the URL where the archive of this program and a link to the
presentation: http://www.opal-online.org/archive.htm
14:23:56
[Jenna Ryan] http://www.mediawiki.com
14:24:07
[Jenna Ryan] There's also http://www.pmwiki.com
14:24:15
[Jenna Ryan] Those are the only ones I'm familiar with
14:24:19
[Curtis Rogers] Biz Wiki looks great!
14:24:25 [Tom
Peters] We also will podcast
the MP3 version of the audiorecording.
14:25:08 [UNT
Research Park Library] links seem to be working again.
14:25:32
[Curtis Rogers] yes, i'm getting into the davis wiki now
14:28:34
[Brenda Hough] It is in Minnesota
:)
14:29:30
[Linda] If you right click and open in new window no problems opening - at
least for me!
14:29:44 [Mary
Paige] If you right-click on a hot link, you can choose to open in a new window
- that works better.
14:29:44 [Plamen] Tom, http://www.opal-online.org/archive.htm
is the general URL. Any chance to dig deeper
and give the specific one?
14:29:45
[Helene] Can wikis be used with a web host solution
like jot spot ?
14:30:35
[Kerri] Do you need to purchase special software or is the format available
through a web link?
14:30:50
[Shelley - Scottsdale PL] What would be the first steps to creating a community wiki in a library?
14:30:53
[Helene] yes
14:32:15
[Gerry McKiernan] Jotspot is a major commerical wiki service
14:32:22
[Leighton] do the wikis track who
makes changes?
14:32:26
[Aaron] RE 1st steps, have a server or use a free web
hoisted wiki
14:33:00 [Plamen] our computer people are very restrictive and I
don't want to go with the "free" Web version. Any way to convince the computer people that
it is not a big deal (they don't want to hear abotu
PHP, very "microsoft people")
14:33:06
[Lindsay] Can You explain again the difference betweeen a blog and a wiki?
14:33:39
[Paulette] It appears that your wiki
may be working ok now?
14:34:07
[Dwight] Will this talk be archived so that we can access it in the future?
14:34:10 [Plamen] also, my colleagues will consider your statement
that wikies can replace CMS
a blasphemy.. :) how can i convince them to pay more attention to wikies, rather then D2L (our Course Management System)
14:34:22
[Denise] How do you require registration?
14:34:34 [Paul
Lewis] Plamen, Don't stop pestering them! I hate to
recommend M$ stuff, but there are open source wikis
that run on M$'s ASP stuff.
14:35:34
[Meredith Farkas] http://www.libsuccess.org/index.php?title=How_Librarians_Can_Use
14:35:35 [Dwight] Are Wikis better than listservs?
14:35:40 [Denise]
Then only registered can make changes?
14:35:41
[Jenna Ryan] I know with MediaWiki their help guide
gives you the PHP to require registration
14:35:49
[Jenna Ryan] You just have to cut and paste the script
they give you
14:35:51
[Aaron] Depends
14:36:12 [Lindsay] diff between wiki and blog? what is it?
14:36:18
[Aaron] Do you want a structured archive of discussions or free wheeling chnages?
14:36:50
[Curtis Rogers] yes, page came thru fine
14:36:54
[Paulette] Yes, that page is displayed
14:36:54
[Aaron] Go with presentaion & we'll side address
the questiions amongst ourselves :)
14:37:02 [Paul
Lewis] Plamen, You will need PHP or ASP or Cold
Fusion (also M$ platform)
14:37:59
[Jenna Ryan] Lindsay -- think of it this way, a blog
is a linear (reverse chronological) organisation
14:38:19
[Jenna Ryan] A wiki is a
lateral organization -- a web of inter-related and cross-referenced links
14:38:33
[Aaron] Wiki v Blog: Blog is an easily
syndicated (and possibly commented upon) stream of sequential info; Wiki is more a way to provide easily mass updatable
information
14:39:28
[Lindsay] Aaron and jenna,
thanks!
14:39:34 [Aaron] hth :)
14:39:40
[Jenna Ryan] Although some wikis
allow you to syndicate the recent changes page through RSS
14:39:55
[Jenna Ryan] And the discussion tab allows you to
comment on the page without altering it
14:40:10 [Jenna Ryan] no prob :)
14:41:29 [Paul
Lewis] Aaron, PmWiki and other top wikis offer RSS now, too.
14:41:55
[Meredith Farkas] http://www.libsuccess.org/index.php?title=So_You_Want_a_Wiki
14:42:18
[Aaron] right, my focus was more the macro view, Blog
= sequential stream & Wiki = easily updateable
14:43:27
[Jenna Ryan] Another option is to use a free wiki program and pay to have it hosted
14:43:45
[Jenna Ryan] I get my wiki hosted on siteground for $5/month, which is really quite reasonable
14:44:27
[Aaron] How much administrative access do you have for that wiki,
Jenna?
14:45:21
[Jenna Ryan] I have complete administration access
14:45:33
[Jenna Ryan] I can edit the PHP files anyway I want (or would, if I knew PHP)
14:46:00
[Jenna Ryan] And the siteground
tech support has been very helpful in helping me navigate the administrative
work on the wiki that I was not familiar with
14:46:40
[Meredith Farkas] http://www.libsuccess.org/index.php?title=Choosing_Wiki_Software
14:46:48
[Aaron] sweet, thanks :)
14:51:56
[Jenkins Law Library] what's the address for that wiki?
Shtuff?
14:52:14 [Tom
Peters] www.schtuff.com
14:52:19
[Jenkins Law Library] thanks
14:52:38
[Meredith Farkas] http://www.libsuccess.org/index.php?title=Getting_People_on_Board
14:52:46 [Laralee] FYI - RSS=Really Simple Syndication (it's how news
services get the headlines up on pages like Yahoo]
14:53:00
[Jenna Ryan] MediaWiki allows registered users to
track changes to any particular page
14:53:36
[Jenkins Law Library] how? I've only found it for the recent changes page on my
mediawiki?
14:54:33
[Jenkins Law Library] do you mean watch pages? or rss?
14:55:54
[Meredith Farkas] http://www.libsuccess.org/index.php?title=More_Readings
14:56:00
[Stacy Chaney] Q (long): any thoughts on how to improve organization of Wiki pages? it seems that wikis work well in
small groups (where everyone knows the pg organization/ has been using the same
terminology etc. -- best ex. might be a group intranet) or it works for
searching for specific info (e.g. Wikipedia). in general, i guess, i think the wiki format makes it hard to browse and find relevant
pages. TY
14:56:24
[Gerry McKiernan] Can I suggest two other 'Readings'
14:56:34
[Aaron] please
14:56:36
[Lindsay] Students are using Wikipedias for school
research. How reliable are those?
14:56:45
[Jenna Ryan] When you are logged into your wiki, any page you look at should have a "Watch"
tab
14:56:57
[Aaron] Wikipedia is merely a good starting tool (imho)
14:57:08
[Jenna Ryan] Clicking on that tab will add it to your watchlist
14:57:13 [unlv] meredith--please
repeat questions--they are very quiet (sometimes)
14:57:18
[Gerry McKiernan] “WikimediaWorlds. Part
I. Wikipedia,” Library
Hi Tech News 22, no. 8 (September/October 2005): 46-54. Self-archived at
<http://www.public.iastate.edu/~gerrymck/WMW-I.pdf> (accessed 1 January 2006)
14:57:26
[Jenna Ryan] Your watchlist
is on the top right
14:57:31
Stephanie Gerding has left the session
14:58:02
[Gerry McKiernan] “Wikis: Disruptive Technologies for
Dynamic Possibilities,” PowerPoint presentation delivered at Digital Libraries à la Carte: Choices for the Future,” Tilburg
University, The Netherlands, August 23, 2005. Self-archived at
<http://www.public.iastate.edu/~gerrymck/TICER2005.ppt> (accessed 1 January 2006)
14:58:13 [Laralee] Lindsay this might be a useful article for you http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,181234,00.html
14:58:53 [Laralee] this is the one Meredith is talking about http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,178805,00.html
14:59:16
[Gerry McKiernan] In additon
lokk at my WikiBibliography
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~CYBERSTACKS/WikiBib.htm
14:59:42
[Stephanie] Wow Gerry - great stuff - thanks!
14:59:59
[Wyoming State Library] How about importing existing data into a wiki?
15:00:30
[Rhonda] how are you spelling "stuff" wiki
15:00:33 [Gerry
McKiernan] I plan to migrate WikiBibliography
[http://www.public.iastate.edu/~CYBERSTACKS/WikiBib.htm ]
to a wiki format later this year.
15:00:56 [Tom
Peters] www.schtuff.com
15:00:58
[Meredith Farkas] schtuff.com
15:01:15
[Aaron] I think the question is how automated can the import process be?
15:01:30 [Chad Boeninger] problem with portability may be matching up
database tables. All of your data from
one wiki may be in another table name in a different software
15:01:50
[Denise] Is the information in the comments, like the suggestions and the
readings going to be available after this ? And is there a print option?
15:01:59
[Dwight] Is there a list of wikis?
15:02:35
[Margaret Hazel] if you right click, it says you can save conversation
15:02:54
[Curtis Rogers] list of wikis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wiki
15:03:25
[Denise] Thanks Margaret.
15:03:47
[Aaron] Mmm... asynchronous. 2 points for working it into an answer! :)
15:03:55 [ub] I'm interested in
using a wiki tas an
Intranet tool but need to have the ability to easily add calendar items and
image uploads. have
you found a wiki that provides this?
15:04:27 [Gerry
McKiernan] Here's another great book:
15:04:34 [Gerry
McKiernan] _Wiki: Web Collaboration_
Ebersbach, Anja,
Glaser, Markus, Heigl, Richard
2006, XVIII, 383 p. 81 illus., Hardcover
ISBN: 3-540-25995-3
[ http://www.springer.com/sgw/cda/frontpage/0,,1-0-22-64311644-0,00.html
]
15:04:45
[Aaron] Does the image have to reside in the wiki or
can the wiki merely link to the image?
15:05:28
[Aaron] There are calendaring apps out there, but I haven't seen a goood wiki calendar. Anyone know of any?
15:06:08
[Jenkins Law Library] I think TikiWiki has a calendar
15:06:12 [Paul
Lewis] ub, PmWiki has 2
calendar apps, both are fine, easy to set up.
15:06:21
[Aaron] cool thx
15:06:37
[Nichole] i think jotspot
(jot.com) also has a calendar
15:06:48 [Daneen] Meredith, Thank you for the information you have
shared with us.
15:07:03 [ub] thankS :)
15:07:07
[Aaron] Thanks for your time, Meredith et al. (from a former NU student - me)
:)
15:07:20 [Gerry
McKiernan] Excellent presentation !!!
15:07:23 [Chad Boeninger] Good work, Meredith
15:07:23
[Curtis Rogers] applause
15:07:26 [Barrie]
Thanks Meridith!
15:07:28
[Michele Mizejewski] Thanks Meredith
15:07:36 [Paul
Lewis] ub, the community (developers and users) at PmWiki is great, too.
15:07:37 [Deb]
Good overview!!
15:07:37 [amandaj] thank you for a great session!
15:07:42 [Sharon]
very helpful, thank you!
15:07:44
[Jenkins Law Library] at the bottom it says this page has been accessed X times
15:08:00 [UNT
Research Park Library] thanks meredith.
15:08:00 [Chad Boeninger] in Mediawiki, you can
look at Popular Pages under the Special Pages link on the left
15:08:16 [Peg]
Wonderful overview with great ideas...thank you Meridith!
15:08:24 [Lisa]
Thank you!
15:08:24 [UNT
Research Park Library] and hi Mom at NU -nfh
15:08:24 [Stacy
Chaney] Thanks!
15:08:30 [Laralee] thank you
15:08:31
[Nichole] thanks Meredith!
15:08:32
[Eleanor] thanks
15:08:34 [Robin
Kear] Thank you!
15:08:34 [ub] ****applause ***
15:08:36 [Jenna
Ryan] Thanks very much!
15:08:36 [Charlotte] Thanks for such a great session and thanks to OPAL, too.
15:08:37
[Samantha] thank you!
15:08:37
[Shelley - Scottsdale PL]
thanks
15:08:38 [Michael Casey] Excellent. Thanks.
15:08:41 [Gerry
McKiernan] Thanks OPAL for organizing !!!
15:08:43 [Rick] Thanks.
15:08:46
Michael Casey has left the session
15:08:47
[Wyoming State Library] THank
you. Great info!
15:08:53 [Marilynn] Thanks. Very interesting.
15:08:54
[Jenkins Law Library] how did you alphabetize your special pages page on mediawiki? Mine is a mess :)
15:08:57 [margaret] Thank you. The presentation was very interesting.
15:09:01
[Edward] Thank you Meredith, nicely done
15:09:11
[Janet] Is there a way for a wiki
administrator to view usage statistics for the whole wiki?
15:09:31 [Denise] Thanks Meredith for everything.
15:09:33 [Jenna
Ryan] Oh, I would like to know about the alphebetisation
as well
15:09:45
[Jenkins Law Library] mine hasn't been :(
15:09:47 [Adam
Bianchi] automatic
:-)
15:09:50 [Anantha] Very Interesting, Thanks.
15:09:52 [Jenna
Ryan] Mine isn't automatic either
15:09:55 [Adam
Bianchi] mediawiki does it automatically
15:10:04
[Jenna Ryan] Not for me it doesn't
15:10:18
[Jenna Ryan] I'm think Jenkins and I have bad versions :)
15:10:23
[Jenkins Law Library] hehe
15:10:49
[Janet] Or maybe its a setting that can be adjusted?
15:10:59 [Gerry McKiernan] LIS Wiki Experiences
and Thoughts for New Book? [
https://mx2.arl.org/Lists/ARL-EJOURNAL/Message/3991.html
15:11:02 [Adam
Bianchi] mediawiki is sort of annoying, in that they
hide lots of settings
15:11:06 [Adam
Bianchi] there's no good interface
15:11:13 [Adam
Bianchi] for changing many of the settings
15:13:37 Deep
has left the session
15:13:44 [Paul
Lewis] thank you so much for the show!
15:13:45 [Janet] s there a way for a wiki
administrator to view usage statistics for the whole wiki?
15:13:46 [Kim
- Darien Library] Thanks a lot, Meredith, great session!
15:14:08
[Margaret Hazel] Thanks!
15:14:09 [DuPage Library System] Thank you!
15:14:09
[Paulette] Can you take us to the archive? And thanks
15:14:10
[Jenna Ryan] Thank you!
15:14:16 [Plamen] thanks for the great session
15:14:22 [Daneen] tom will the side
discussion also be archived?
15:14:43 [Tom
Peters] yes, I'll save the text chat and point to it separately.
15:14:50
[Michele Mizejewski] great!
15:14:53 [Daneen] Great!!
15:14:55
[Catherine] Thanks!
15:15:01
[Meredith Farkas] oh that's great. I'm sure I missed a lot while talking.
15:15:16
[Dwight] Thanks for a great introduction to Wikis!
15:15:23
[Meredith Farkas] thanks for coming!