Welcome Tom Peters 12:47:14 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/frame.htm 12:47:15 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/outline.htm 12:47:15 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0001.htm 12:47:15 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/outline.htm 12:47:15 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/outline.htm 12:47:31 [Chad] yep 12:47:36 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/frame.htm 12:47:36 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/outline.htm 12:47:36 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0001.htm 12:47:36 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/outline.htm 12:47:36 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/outline.htm 12:48:15 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0033.htm 12:48:18 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0041.htm 12:48:20 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0033.htm 12:48:21 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0001.htm 12:48:41 karenbjork has joined the session 12:48:55 [Chad] good call 12:48:59 [Starr] i agree 12:51:50 [Chad] javascript:GoToSld('slide0048.htm'); 12:51:50 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0048.htm 12:52:01 [Chad] javascript:GoToSld('slide0057.htm'); 12:52:02 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0057.htm 12:52:05 [Chad] javascript:GoToSld('slide0056.htm'); 12:52:05 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0056.htm 12:52:09 [Chad] javascript:GoToSld('slide0045.htm'); 12:52:09 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0045.htm 12:52:12 [Chad] javascript:GoToSld('slide0001.htm'); 12:52:12 [Chad] javascript:GoToSld('slide0001.htm'); 12:52:12 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0001.htm 12:53:01 Meredith has joined the session 12:53:02 rachelkingcade has joined the session 12:53:09 RenataGibson has joined the session 12:53:16 [Tom Peters] Hi, Everyone 12:53:17 [rachelkingcade] Hello 12:53:22 [Meredith] Hi! 12:53:26 [Amanda] Hi all! 12:53:27 [Meredith] Hey Chad and Starr! 12:53:29 [RenataGibson] Hi :) 12:53:32 [Starr] Hi Meredith!! 12:53:36 [Chad] hello 12:53:41 JacquelynErdman has joined the session 12:53:53 [Meredith] I can't wait to listen to a wiki talk that I don't have to give :) 12:53:58 [Chad] lol 12:54:01 [Starr] heh, heh 12:54:01 [Amanda] lol 12:54:40 [Starr] It was just a little intimidating to send you, of all people, a proposal for a wiki session! :) 12:54:42 bethtumbleson has joined the session 12:54:46 [Meredith] lol! 12:54:47 [JacquelynErdman] I was going to make a smart remark about you becoming a guru, so just accept it, but I'll be nice :) 12:55:09 [Meredith] believe me, there's a ton I don't know about wikis! 12:55:34 [Meredith] This group tends to show up on the late side, so we may want to give folks a few minutes past 2 to get here. 12:55:43 [Amanda] sounds good 12:55:48 [JacquelynErdman] makes sense 12:56:07 jillmarkgraf has joined the session 12:56:07 karenbradley has joined the session 12:56:13 [Meredith] I keep showing up for my chats right on time and then freaking out because no one's there yet. ;-) 12:56:24 Michelle has joined the session 12:56:26 [Starr] Tom, is ALT + L the way that we lock the mic on during the presentation? 12:56:35 ritaennen has joined the session 12:56:41 [Starr] ok, thanks. 12:56:56 Janelle Jarboe has joined the session 12:57:18 josalyngpl has joined the session 12:57:24 Dorothea has joined the session 12:57:40 [Tom Peters] howdy, gang 12:57:50 [Dorothea] heya 12:57:52 [rachelkingcade] What up G? 12:57:56 [Meredith] lol! 12:57:58 [rachelkingcade] :P 12:58:06 [Meredith] Rachel you are such a nut! 12:58:12 [Michelle] howdy! 12:58:18 [Michelle] haha and she's all mine 12:58:21 [Chad] G is actually what my sons call my mother in law 12:58:23 [rachelkingcade] Yeth...yeth I am 12:58:32 [Chad] since granny is a little harder to say 12:58:34 [Starr] that's hilarious, Chad. 12:58:42 karenpardue has joined the session 12:58:43 kpenner has joined the session 12:58:43 [rachelkingcade] :) 12:58:44 [Michelle] we are going to be designing costumes for our superhero team, which is taking over the world 12:58:46 [Chad] she even has G on her license tag 12:58:52 [Starr] lol 12:58:59 [Starr] ooo, can i have a cape? 12:59:00 [Dorothea] what?! YOUR superhero team?! 12:59:00 [Michelle] chad, very nice, and howdy, been awhile 12:59:04 [karenpardue] Hi everybody! 12:59:07 [rachelkingcade] No CAPES!!!! 12:59:11 [Chad] yes, good to be here 12:59:12 [Michelle] see capes are hard, you know they get caught on stuff 12:59:12 [rachelkingcade] They get caught! 12:59:14 [Dorothea] well, that just tears it -- I hereby declare my supervillainy. 12:59:19 [Starr] true--The Incredibles made that point. 12:59:24 [rachelkingcade] Yep 12:59:27 [Starr] then iwant go-go boots, at least. 12:59:30 [Michelle] haha, we have our first foe 12:59:33 [Meredith] oooh! I wanna be a supervillain too! 12:59:38 Jini has joined the session 12:59:40 [Michelle] and here I thought it was going to be all luddites! 12:59:54 [rachelkingcade] no dice :) 13:00:23 [rachelkingcade] *sidenote...Swedish fish is a great snack* 13:00:41 shireen has joined the session 13:00:42 [Michelle] Starr, awesome boots are a muct for any superhero 13:00:43 [Janelle Jarboe] man... someone always has to bring up food 13:00:44 [Janelle Jarboe] lol 13:00:45 [Michelle] must 13:00:46 [Janelle Jarboe] i am starving 13:00:48 [Starr] :) 13:00:54 [rachelkingcade] I share :) 13:00:57 [Janelle Jarboe] lol 13:01:00 [Meredith] yeah, not fair for folks on the west coast 13:01:08 [Meredith] :) 13:01:10 [Starr] boots... and a matching handbag, maybe? ;) 13:01:19 [karenpardue] or the mountain states--I'm starved 13:01:22 [rachelkingcade] <<<====< 13:01:24 [Janelle Jarboe] lol 13:01:29 [rachelkingcade] Big fish for y'all 13:01:30 [Michelle] maybe, maybe *rubs chin in thought* 13:01:35 kpenner has left the session 13:01:42 [karenpardue] is there such thing as virtual food? 13:01:53 [Michelle] Mmm, there should be 13:01:53 [Starr] i wish--sounds like it'd be faster than real food. 13:01:55 [rachelkingcade] if u think it... 13:02:00 [karenpardue] lol 13:02:04 RobinG has joined the session 13:02:18 kpenner has joined the session 13:02:26 cheriduncan has joined the session 13:02:35 cheriduncan has left the session 13:02:36 cheriduncan has joined the session 13:02:50 carolmurphy has joined the session 13:03:19 [karenpardue] Hi, Chad! 13:03:23 [Starr] yep! 13:03:23 [Meredith] yes! 13:03:23 [karenpardue] yes 13:03:24 [Tom Peters] yes 13:03:24 [Amanda] yep! 13:03:26 [shireen] you sound great 13:03:26 [carolmurphy] yes 13:03:52 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0033.htm 13:03:59 [Starr] looks good. 13:04:02 [Dorothea] slides OK 13:04:28 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0041.htm 13:05:25 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0042.htm 13:05:52 fredjahns has joined the session 13:05:54 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0043.htm 13:06:41 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0044.htm 13:06:48 rachelkingcade has left the session 13:06:52 rachelkingcade has joined the session 13:07:42 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0045.htm 13:08:17 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0056.htm 13:08:30 [rachelkingcade] My sound keeps cutting in and out...hmmmm 13:08:35 [jillmarkgraf] the ref wiki looks way prettier than a lot of other wikis! 13:08:37 [Meredith] it's working fine here 13:08:38 [Starr] fine for me 13:08:38 [Janelle Jarboe] good here 13:08:39 [Amanda] fine here 13:08:42 [karenpardue] good here 13:08:42 [Dorothea] mine's okay 13:08:43 [Tom Peters] sounds good here 13:08:45 [RenataGibson] no sound is fine for me 13:08:53 [rachelkingcade] Prob just me 13:09:05 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0047.htm 13:09:39 kpenner has left the session 13:09:48 [Dorothea] ... every time it breaks in an interesting fashion... ;) 13:09:52 rachelkingcade has left the session 13:09:53 rachelkingcade has joined the session 13:09:58 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0046.htm 13:10:38 nancysmith has joined the session 13:11:03 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0048.htm 13:12:04 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0057.htm 13:12:04 [Meredith] http://www.library.ohiou.edu/sllc/index.php/Main_Page 13:12:24 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0050.htm 13:12:38 Suzanne has joined the session 13:12:53 rachelkingcade has left the session 13:13:00 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0014.htm 13:13:09 Alisia has joined the session 13:13:17 rachelkingcade has joined the session 13:13:36 rachelkingcade has left the session 13:13:37 rachelkingcade has joined the session 13:13:41 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0036.htm 13:14:11 rachelkingcade has left the session 13:14:36 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0037.htm 13:14:57 [Dorothea] MediaWiki is what's powering the 5Weeks wiki. 13:15:02 [Meredith] MediaWiki is the software we are using in this class, folks :) 13:15:05 [Dorothea] jinx 13:15:10 [Meredith] lol 13:15:14 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0021.htm 13:15:41 [shireen] but you COULD use a web-based wiki product, right? 13:15:47 [Dorothea] sure 13:15:50 [Meredith] it is Web based 13:15:51 [Starr] yep--i'll discuss that a little. 13:15:52 rachelkingcade has joined the session 13:15:54 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0058.htm 13:16:04 [Meredith] you mean hosted, I think? 13:16:34 [Dorothea] go go meebo widget! 13:16:52 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0062.htm 13:17:12 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0027.htm 13:17:23 Meredith has left the session 13:17:24 Meredith has joined the session 13:17:25 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0060.htm 13:18:01 rachelkingcade has left the session 13:18:10 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0061.htm 13:18:38 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0063.htm 13:19:12 mepeppers has joined the session 13:19:15 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0020.htm 13:19:56 [Dorothea] saves $$$ in paper 13:20:15 [Meredith] NICE! 13:20:19 [Michelle] very good idea 13:20:24 [Janelle Jarboe] Wow! I wish they had these when I was in college 13:20:36 [shireen] Chad, do you create a separate wiki for each class you teach? 13:20:44 lindab has joined the session 13:20:46 rachelkingcade has joined the session 13:21:09 [shireen] that makes sense.. 13:21:14 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0028.htm 13:21:25 [RobinG] i love the fact you update the wiki during classes, if need arises! 13:22:08 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0029.htm 13:22:23 rachelkingcade has left the session 13:22:24 rachelkingcade has joined the session 13:22:27 [shireen] sound? 13:22:35 [Meredith] it's working fine here 13:22:38 [Dorothea] ok here 13:22:38 [Starr] fine 13:22:38 [Amanda] fine here 13:22:38 [Janelle Jarboe] good here 13:22:40 [karenbradley] fine 13:22:42 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0059.htm 13:22:44 [Janelle Jarboe] lol 13:22:45 [Starr] rofl! 13:22:58 [Alisia] I bet it engages people in the class as well, because they feel involved 13:22:59 rachelkingcade has left the session 13:23:00 rachelkingcade has joined the session 13:23:03 [Dorothea] I've been busy packing today. No time to break the Internets. 13:23:07 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0039.htm 13:23:10 [Janelle Jarboe] lol 13:23:11 [Amanda] lol 13:23:15 [lindab] I have a broken internet 13:23:33 rachelkingcade has left the session 13:23:41 carolmurphy has left the session 13:23:51 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0016.htm 13:23:52 [Michelle] linda you made it! 13:23:56 carolmurphy has joined the session 13:24:13 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0023.htm 13:24:16 rachelkingcade has joined the session 13:24:17 [Tom Peters] You're number 9 and trying harder! 13:24:18 RenataGibson has left the session 13:24:19 RenataGibson has joined the session 13:24:22 [shireen] is that a feature of the software you used? the popular pages link? 13:24:23 [Michelle] glad you fixed your tooobes 13:24:35 rachelkingcade has left the session 13:24:36 [Dorothea] yes, it's a MediaWiki feature 13:24:36 rachelkingcade has joined the session 13:24:41 [Janelle Jarboe] cool. :) 13:24:46 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0030.htm 13:24:47 [shireen] thanx dorothea 13:25:07 rachelkingcade has left the session 13:25:08 rachelkingcade has joined the session 13:25:12 [rachelkingcade] i keep getting ousted will this be posted? 13:25:17 [Meredith] yes, it will 13:25:26 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0053.htm 13:25:26 [rachelkingcade] tx very frustrating 13:25:42 [Dorothea] sorry about that! maybe my mere presence breaks the Internets 13:25:49 [Janelle Jarboe] lol 13:25:53 [shireen] chad yours looks like you spent a lot of time on it... 13:25:55 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0054.htm 13:26:15 [Michelle] Dorothea, maybe that is your super villian power 13:26:18 [jillmarkgraf] I'm having another 5 Weeks eureka moment!(Thought I'd share that ) 13:26:21 [Dorothea] lol! must be 13:26:31 [Meredith] that's it, Michelle! I knew it all along! 13:26:52 [shireen] chad are your patrons contibuting a lot to the wiki? 13:27:12 [shireen] sure, that's great...that you can see the use 13:27:13 [Dorothea] how aware are they that they can? some of them may be intimidated at the idea 13:27:14 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0055.htm 13:27:28 [Janelle Jarboe] lol 13:27:38 [Meredith] yeah! 13:27:40 [jillmarkgraf] I noticed in visiting your wiki that you've imbedded a survey. What have you found out? 13:27:43 [Chad] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksBoeninger_files/slide0026.htm 13:27:47 rachelkingcade has left the session 13:27:51 [shireen] that was great chad thanks... 13:27:51 [jillmarkgraf] *embedded 13:28:04 rachelkingcade has joined the session 13:28:11 [RobinG] Very helpful, Chad! 13:28:13 [Meredith] a wiki doesn't always have to be about collaboration. sometimes the benefits are all about fast editing/updating and findability 13:28:14 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/frame.htm 13:28:14 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/outline.htm 13:28:14 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0001.htm 13:28:14 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/outline.htm 13:28:14 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/outline.htm 13:28:14 [Tom Peters] Chad, also remember to turn off synch browsing at your end. 13:28:20 Meredith has left the session 13:28:22 Meredith has joined the session 13:28:27 [karenbradley] Thanks Chad! Very interesting. 13:28:28 [Chad] done 13:28:31 [Chad] thanks tom 13:28:33 [nancysmith] Starr I can barely hear you 13:28:39 [Dorothea] that's Amanda 13:28:45 rachelkingcade has left the session 13:28:46 rachelkingcade has joined the session 13:28:55 [Tom Peters] yes 13:28:56 [Meredith] perfect! 13:28:56 [karenpardue] yes 13:28:57 [Janelle Jarboe] sounds good to me 13:28:57 [shireen] sounds good 13:28:58 [Amanda] great 13:28:58 [lindab] yes 13:28:58 [RenataGibson] yes 13:28:58 [karenbradley] Sounds fine 13:28:58 [carolmurphy] yes 13:29:00 [Alisia] good 13:29:01 [Janelle Jarboe] lol 13:29:05 rachelkingcade has left the session 13:29:10 [Michelle] nancy, try changing the volume on the bottom left 13:29:12 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0002.htm 13:29:32 rachelkingcade has joined the session 13:29:32 rachelkingcade has left the session 13:29:41 [Meredith] or your computer's volume 13:29:59 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0011.htm 13:30:03 rachelkingcade has joined the session 13:30:34 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0012.htm 13:31:03 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0015.htm 13:31:16 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0019.htm 13:31:32 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0025.htm 13:31:45 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0026.htm 13:31:59 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0027.htm 13:32:18 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0028.htm 13:32:33 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0029.htm 13:32:47 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0030.htm 13:33:18 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0044.htm 13:33:27 rachelkingcade has left the session 13:33:29 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0051.htm 13:33:43 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0052.htm 13:33:58 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0017.htm 13:34:14 [karenpardue] is there any way to zoom in on the slides? 13:34:24 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0045.htm 13:34:44 [shireen] try minimizing /narrowing the chat area of the screen karen... 13:34:44 [karenpardue] great, thanks 13:34:50 [karenpardue] thanks 13:35:03 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0023.htm 13:35:07 [Tom Peters] Also, click on the outline button at the bottom middle to hide the outline. 13:35:17 [Meredith] you can click on slideshow in the lower-right-hand corner but it will open up a new screen with the slide 13:35:24 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0016.htm 13:35:48 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0055.htm 13:36:13 kpenner has joined the session 13:36:28 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0018.htm 13:36:40 karenbjork has left the session 13:36:44 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0046.htm 13:36:56 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0022.htm 13:37:11 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0036.htm 13:37:14 Meredith has left the session 13:37:14 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0048.htm 13:37:15 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0050.htm 13:37:15 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0053.htm 13:37:15 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0054.htm 13:37:15 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0047.htm 13:37:15 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0031.htm 13:37:15 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0032.htm 13:37:15 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0033.htm 13:37:15 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0049.htm 13:37:15 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0034.htm 13:37:15 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0035.htm 13:37:15 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0038.htm 13:37:15 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0003.htm 13:37:15 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0005.htm 13:37:15 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0009.htm 13:37:15 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0008.htm 13:37:15 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0010.htm 13:37:15 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0039.htm 13:37:15 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0040.htm 13:37:15 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0041.htm 13:37:15 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0042.htm 13:37:15 Meredith has joined the session 13:37:18 [Starr] javascript:GoToSld('slide0046.htm'); 13:37:18 [Starr] javascript:GoToSld('slide0046.htm'); 13:37:18 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0046.htm 13:37:24 Meredith has left the session 13:37:24 Meredith has joined the session 13:37:25 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0018.htm 13:37:25 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0055.htm 13:37:28 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0018.htm 13:37:29 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0046.htm 13:37:31 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0022.htm 13:37:32 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0036.htm 13:37:52 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0048.htm 13:38:05 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0050.htm 13:38:16 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0053.htm 13:38:45 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0054.htm 13:39:03 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0047.htm 13:39:19 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0031.htm 13:39:32 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0032.htm 13:39:43 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0033.htm 13:39:58 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0049.htm 13:40:06 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0034.htm 13:40:28 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0035.htm 13:40:50 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0038.htm 13:40:59 [Chad] just as an aside, in some cases, what is a stopword in some databases, like mysql, so searching for "what" in a mediawiki wiki will yield no results 13:41:04 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0003.htm 13:41:13 [Meredith] huh, I didn't know that! 13:41:41 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0005.htm 13:41:44 [jillmarkgraf] I played with this last night. It's pretty cool 13:41:45 [shireen] do most web based wikis have the search feature? 13:42:00 [Alisia] that looks great 13:42:02 [Meredith] yes, most do have search available 13:42:03 [Dorothea] yes indeed -- search is basic wiki functionality 13:42:07 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0009.htm 13:42:09 [shireen] thanks... 13:42:11 [Alisia] I wish there was a matrix like that for all sorts of products 13:42:26 [Chad] most have a database backend, which allows for searching 13:42:31 [Meredith] there's a forum matrix too, for choosing forum software now. 13:42:38 [Dorothea] there IS? 13:42:40 [Dorothea] where??? 13:42:48 [Meredith] yeah, by the same guy, so it looks the same 13:42:52 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0008.htm 13:43:05 [Meredith] http://www.forummatrix.org/ 13:43:18 [Dorothea] tx! 13:43:26 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0010.htm 13:43:26 [Meredith] :) 13:43:51 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0039.htm 13:43:53 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0010.htm 13:44:06 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0039.htm 13:44:22 [Chad] hosting locally also gives you control over your data 13:44:25 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0040.htm 13:44:38 [Chad] i'd hate for pbwiki to go out of business 13:44:50 [Chad] and have my data lost 13:45:00 [shireen] i was wondering about that too chad... 13:45:23 [Tom Peters] Is there any way to back up your hosted wiki locally? 13:45:30 [Chad] also, it's a little hard to switch between software 13:45:34 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0041.htm 13:45:37 [Meredith] that's a very good idea, Starr 13:45:41 [Dorothea] you could turn a webcrawler loose on it -- wget or whatever. 13:46:31 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0042.htm 13:46:36 [jillmarkgraf] Is the wiki syntax an issue in getting colleagues to buy into wikis? 13:46:49 [Dorothea] it definitely can be, Jill 13:46:51 [Meredith] it definitely is, Jill 13:46:52 [karenpardue] does it matter if one uses php extensions or asp for locally hosted wikis? 13:46:53 [Alisia] it was for us... 13:47:01 [Dorothea] if that's likely to be a problem, look into wikis that have TinyMCE or something like it 13:47:02 [Starr] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHoffman_files/slide0043.htm 13:47:11 [Meredith] a lot of wikis are moving towards being WYSIWYG 13:47:14 [shireen] can you add a google calendar or another calendar feature to a wiki? 13:47:17 [Meredith] PBWiki is, MediaWiki is working on it 13:47:33 [Dorothea] if you can add it to a regular web page, you can probably add it to a wiki 13:47:40 [Suzanne] Chad, do you think your wiki would be as successful if you had created it indpendently? (instead of with the library header, etc.) 13:48:11 [Suzanne] blog has the library header.. 13:48:24 [bethtumbleson] Do you see any advantage between PBwiki and Wetpaint-hosted wikis. 13:48:26 [Starr] i'm an old fuddy-duddy--not as fond og WYSIWYG. :) 13:48:40 [Meredith] MediaWiki is kind of a pain to customize. PmWiki is much better for that aspect. 13:48:50 [josalyngpl] I started a wiki using wetpaint (hosted remotely) and I am having removing ads. Is there a way to do this? Is this an issue with PBwiki? 13:49:10 [Starr] I haven't had problems with ads in PBwiki. 13:49:17 [bethtumbleson] Nice to know the potential problems. 13:49:24 [Starr] THe only problem is that with the PDF prints, they format a little oddly. 13:49:39 [Starr] (I'm speaking of PDFs that PBwiki automatically creates from your wiki pages). 13:49:41 [Dorothea] really? weird 13:49:47 [lindab] for a while pbwiki would start up with a valentines ad inviting you to upgrade - it was annoying 13:49:50 [Dorothea] I guess it's the vandalism issue. 13:49:52 [Starr] true!!! 13:50:09 [jillmarkgraf] Does PBWiki offer the categories Chad mentioned in MediaWiki? 13:50:10 [Meredith] PBwiki does have small ads on the free version, but they're a lot smaller than most free hosted wikis 13:50:16 [Starr] not in the free version. 13:50:20 [karenpardue] Chad, The biggest problem I have with my students is getting them to click on a link at all. If it isn't on the library homepage, which is insanely crowded with information right now, students will not look for a link to a page created for them. I project using a wiki for student use to have the same problem. Where do you put the link(s) to the wiki on your library site? 13:50:22 [Alisia] but if you're doing one of those subject guides, I would probably want to see flash camtasia presentations, for example 13:50:22 [josalyngpl] Are you familiar with removing ads in wetpaint? Or because this is hosted remotely - this is just something I need to deal with? 13:50:42 [Starr] unfortunately, i don't know much about wetpaint. 13:50:57 [Starr] but ads are common in remotely-hosted, ones, if they are free/cheap. 13:50:59 [karenpardue] I see 13:51:05 [Suzanne] that's where I'm comming from too. My library isn't interested...yet. so I'm doing some of this on my own. 13:51:24 [josalyngpl] Starr - that's okay. Thanks for your other comment :) 13:51:27 [Starr] np! 13:51:31 [karenpardue] heavy marketing 13:51:39 [karenpardue] to a captive audience 13:51:53 [Chad] exactly 13:52:04 [bethtumbleson] I just need a place to practice so PBwiki sounds better 13:52:11 [Alisia] We found that the biggest and best seller of a wiki is the faculty pointing/using the wiki 13:52:27 [karenpardue] Alisia, great point 13:52:47 [Meredith] so true, Alisia. they set the tone 13:52:50 [Chad] faculty link to individual wiki articles in blackboard 13:52:52 [josalyngpl] that is an excellent feature 13:53:08 [karenpardue] Ah, the blackboard component!! 13:53:14 JacquelynErdman has left the session 13:53:19 Michelle has left the session 13:53:38 [josalyngpl] Chad your idea of including screen shots was a great idea! 13:54:08 [josalyngpl] "How to" screen shots 13:55:29 [Alisia] ouch 13:55:35 [Meredith] yes, I'm sure the discipline must make a difference! 13:55:57 [Meredith] I think Jill had asked something about categories in PbWiki 13:56:05 [karenpardue] Our server works only with Active Servier pages. Can the wikis work with this? 13:56:25 [jillmarkgraf] Thanks 13:56:27 [Meredith] I don't think you can in the advanced either if I remember correctly 13:56:36 [Meredith] but they're constantly improving things 13:56:39 [Starr] true!! 13:57:04 [Dorothea] oof, tough one 13:57:24 [karenpardue] yes 13:57:30 [karenpardue] no 13:57:33 RenataGibson has left the session 13:57:34 [Dorothea] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wiki_software#Windows-based 13:57:42 [Starr] nice, Dorothea!! 13:57:43 [karenpardue] eeewwww 13:57:44 [karenpardue] ok 13:58:02 [Dorothea] yeah, you should be able to get Perl working on a Windows box 13:58:10 [Dorothea] and a number of wiki packages are in Perl 13:58:10 [karenpardue] I will check into it. Our IT is NOT flexible... 13:58:12 [Starr] go linux!! 13:58:25 [Meredith] and getting server space off-campus is a great option 13:58:29 [Meredith] that's what we did at our library 13:58:35 [Meredith] very affordable 13:58:39 [karenpardue] Thanks 13:58:57 [karenpardue] that was me 13:59:10 [Amanda] oh, got it! 13:59:10 [Dorothea] you'll find a lot more PHP wiki packages than ASP 13:59:23 [Starr] that's b/c PHP is so purty. :) 13:59:24 [Meredith] New versions of MediaWiki actually require PHP5 which a lot of servers are not running now 13:59:42 [Meredith] lucky you. We don't :( 14:00:13 [Starr] no kidding! 14:00:27 [karenpardue] So we could buy space on LIS Hosting 14:00:32 [Dorothea] sure 14:00:41 [shireen] you guys were both great...great examples... 14:00:42 [Meredith] thank you so much Chad and Starr! You guys rocked wikis! 14:00:43 [ritaennen] Thank you! 14:00:43 [josalyngpl] Thanks Chard & Starr! 14:00:45 [karenpardue] thanks!!! 14:00:46 Suzanne has left the session 14:00:46 [Alisia] Thank you! 14:00:46 [bethtumbleson] So practical, thanks. 14:00:47 [karenbradley] Thank you! 14:00:49 Janelle Jarboe has left the session 14:00:49 [Starr] thanks--it was fun!!! 14:00:49 shireen has left the session 14:00:49 [lindab] thanks 14:00:50 [jillmarkgraf] Thanks, really good 14:00:51 fredjahns has left the session 14:00:51 [Amanda] thanks for a great chat all! 14:00:52 ritaennen has left the session 14:00:52 [Chad] Thanks for havingme 14:00:54 jillmarkgraf has left the session 14:00:54 lindab has left the session 14:00:55 karenbradley has left the session 14:00:56 [carolmurphy] Thank you for all this information 14:00:57 karenpardue has left the session 14:00:57 Alisia has left the session 14:01:00 [nancysmith] Thank you! 14:01:00 carolmurphy has left the session 14:01:02 kpenner has left the session 14:01:03 bethtumbleson has left the session 14:01:03 Jini has left the session 14:01:12 nancysmith has left the session