Welcome Tom Peters 17:33:09 Rebecca Hedreen has joined the session 17:37:09 carolmurphy has joined the session 17:37:23 [Tom Peters] Hi, Carol 17:37:30 [Tom Peters] We'll get started at the top of the hour. 17:37:51 [carolmurphy] Hi everyone. This is really exciting. 17:40:28 Nancy Smith has joined the session 17:41:13 Meredith has joined the session 17:41:18 Dorothea has joined the session 17:41:43 [Dorothea] Good evening, folks! 17:42:10 [Tom Peters] Is anyone snowed in? 17:42:19 [Meredith] not yet. that's coming for us tomorrow :) 17:42:33 [Dorothea] GMU closed at 4:30. 17:42:47 [Dorothea] And I'll be shocked if it isn't closed tomorrow. 17:42:54 [Meredith] they're telling us to come to work tomorrow, but I'm just not that crazy 17:43:00 [Dorothea] goodness, no 17:43:02 [Meredith] we're supposed to get 2 feet of snow 17:43:13 [carolmurphy] We have snow in South Jersey, but it is changing to ice. 17:43:30 [Meredith] awful! 17:43:57 [Meredith] YES! 17:43:57 cristieferguson has joined the session 17:44:00 [carolmurphy] 2 feet oh my 17:44:10 [Nancy Smith] Our Shorewood Service Center was closed all day and Rockford and Coal Valley closed at 4. We were on videoconference with the State Library when they were interrupted with the news that Illinois State government was closing down about 3PM 17:44:14 mjmurrey has joined the session 17:44:19 [Meredith] We're taking turns playing introducer this time around :) 17:45:56 [Meredith] Nice job Rebecca using a blog as your presentation medium! :) 17:46:04 [Dorothea] Yes, that works nicely! 17:46:35 [Meredith] I've gotten so tired of using powerpoint myself. 17:46:37 [Rebecca Hedreen] It's funny. I use blogs as an alternative to PPT 17:46:47 [Rebecca Hedreen] but I ended up taking screenshots! 17:47:04 [Meredith] lol! 17:47:04 [Dorothea] that's no surprise 17:47:08 [Dorothea] live demos ALWAYS backfire 17:47:18 [Meredith] I ended up using a wiki for a presentation last Fall 17:47:20 [Dorothea] <-- the voice of experience 17:47:31 [Tom Peters] yes, we were worried about slow response times if we were live. 17:48:04 [Meredith] Yeah, I remember when I had that big crowd for my wiki talk in OPAL... I think we actually overloaded a few servers when trying to co-browse! Ooops! 17:48:13 [Rebecca Hedreen] this way we get the best of both: screenshots for the live presentation and the blog for later review 17:48:25 [Meredith] nice idea 17:48:34 [Dorothea] brilliant -- and another example of blogging for folks to think about! 17:48:37 [Tom Peters] the wiki was not quick that day 17:48:49 [Meredith] certainly not ;-) 17:49:17 [Dorothea] I once lent my laptop to a presenter at a conference when hers completely died. 17:49:43 [Dorothea] This was in the days when one swapped 3.5" floppies rather than USB key drives. :) 17:50:04 reegan breu has joined the session 17:50:18 [Meredith] I've gotten so used to saying "well if it had worked, you would have seen ___" 17:50:18 [Dorothea] Tom, does the little black "r" in a yellow circle indicate that you're recording the conference also? 17:50:42 [Tom Peters] yes, I have set up a recording and placed it in pause mode until we get started. 17:50:55 [Tom Peters] Dorothea, could you give me a five-second warning before you begin? 17:51:00 [Dorothea] sure thing 17:51:29 [Dorothea] by my clock we've still got 9 minutes 17:51:35 [Rebecca Hedreen] Same here 17:52:56 [cristieferguson] Is anyone else's OPAL navigation information in French? 17:53:07 [Dorothea] er, no, can't say that it is 17:53:11 [Meredith] not mine. 17:53:34 [Meredith] Gives you more of a challenge! ;-) 17:53:35 [Rebecca Hedreen] no 17:53:57 [cristieferguson] What you all are typing is in English and so are the slides but all of my navigation buttons are in French. ??? I agree...very strange and I can't find a way to change it. 17:54:08 [mjmurrey] notmine 17:54:12 [Meredith] lol! 17:54:23 [Rebecca Hedreen] maybe close and log back in? 17:54:37 [Meredith] Fortunately you shouldn't really have to use too many of the menu items 17:54:53 [Dorothea] yes, they're for me to try not to break ;) 17:54:55 Lauren McMullen has joined the session 17:54:59 Janelle Jarboe has joined the session 17:55:02 [cristieferguson] It's kinda cool...I can manage, I just wondered. I might learn more than I imagined!! 17:55:27 [Tom Peters] true multitasking...learn French and blogging during your spare time! 17:55:41 [reegan breu] Try going under File (which will be Fichier in French) and then select Langue. It can then be changed to English. 17:55:53 missyvandusen has joined the session 17:56:11 [cristieferguson] Whew! I had looked but missed it. THANKS :) 17:56:29 [Dorothea] huh, my File menu doesn't have a language selector. What I get for being a Machead, I suppose. 17:56:29 [Meredith] Didn't you know this course is "cinq semaines a une bibliotheque sociale"? 17:56:39 [Tom Peters] Wow, all these hours I've spent in OPAL rooms, and I've noticed that option before! 17:56:44 [Rebecca Hedreen] It would be a little more difficult to find in an language you don't know! 8-) 17:57:12 josalyngpl has joined the session 17:57:26 [Dorothea] Meredith, do you want to put up a temp blogpost with IM info in case people have trouble getting in? 17:57:34 [Dorothea] I'd do it, but I've broken Drupal more than enough lately! 17:59:10 shireen has joined the session 17:59:38 [Meredith] IM for this? 17:59:44 jini has joined the session 17:59:53 [Dorothea] Well, no, just somebody to contact in case something goes boom. 17:59:59 [Meredith] ah! ok. 18:00:00 [Meredith] can do 18:00:09 [jini] hello 18:00:10 [shireen] should i be hearing anything yet? 18:00:34 [shireen] thanks...i heard that! 18:00:47 [Dorothea] okay, one or two minutes for latecomers, and we'll get started 18:01:31 [Dorothea] (and for my dratted heater to turn itself off! ah, there it goes) 18:02:10 [Dorothea] Right. Five seconds, Tom. 18:02:15 [Tom Peters] okay 18:02:39 [Tom Peters] Hi, Everyone 18:03:17 jillmarkgraf has joined the session 18:03:39 [Rebecca Hedreen] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHedreen_files/slide0002.htm 18:05:00 karenbjork has joined the session 18:05:25 [Rebecca Hedreen] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHedreen_files/slide0005.htm 18:05:36 [Rebecca Hedreen] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHedreen_files/slide0006.htm 18:06:03 luisrodas has joined the session 18:06:17 [Dorothea] http://gulfbeacheslib.org/news.php 18:06:18 [Rebecca Hedreen] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHedreen_files/slide0003.htm 18:06:22 [Rebecca Hedreen] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHedreen_files/slide0004.htm 18:06:34 [Rebecca Hedreen] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHedreen_files/slide0007.htm 18:06:40 [Rebecca Hedreen] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHedreen_files/slide0008.htm 18:06:54 [Dorothea] http://carabosse.commons.is.wccnet.org/news/ 18:07:45 [Rebecca Hedreen] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHedreen_files/slide0009.htm 18:07:56 [Rebecca Hedreen] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHedreen_files/slide0010.htm 18:08:13 [Rebecca Hedreen] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHedreen_files/slide0011.htm 18:08:16 [Dorothea] http://library.cshl.edu/news/ 18:08:27 [Rebecca Hedreen] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHedreen_files/slide0012.htm 18:08:36 [Rebecca Hedreen] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHedreen_files/slide0013.htm 18:08:41 [Dorothea] http://provlibcomputerclass.blogspot.com/ 18:08:42 [Rebecca Hedreen] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHedreen_files/slide0014.htm 18:08:52 [Rebecca Hedreen] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHedreen_files/slide0015.htm 18:08:58 [Rebecca Hedreen] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHedreen_files/slide0016.htm 18:09:04 [Rebecca Hedreen] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHedreen_files/slide0017.htm 18:09:37 [Dorothea] http://pfplreaders.blogspot.com/ 18:09:47 [Rebecca Hedreen] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHedreen_files/slide0018.htm 18:10:27 [Dorothea] (sorry, I missed a few links, but Rebecca's blog will have them!) 18:10:28 [Janelle Jarboe] I have never thought of using a newsletter in a blog format. That's a great idea! 18:10:28 [Tom Peters] Some libraries don't allow comments. Why? 18:10:29 [Dorothea] questions? 18:11:35 [luisrodas] Which is the ethics code for "deleting" non amiable comments from users? Like a comment that is intended to be a offense and has no objective value for our blog? 18:11:44 [Tom Peters] Spammers sometimes use comments, don't they? 18:12:22 [Dorothea] yes, we've run into that on 5Weeks already :( 18:12:30 [Janelle Jarboe] do you have any examples of comment policies? 18:12:45 [Janelle Jarboe] :) 18:12:53 [Meredith] I'll try to find some and post them to the blog. 18:13:00 [Janelle Jarboe] ok. thanks 18:13:47 [Tom Peters] I just googled "library blog comments policy" and found quite a few. 18:13:57 [Meredith] thanks Tom! 18:14:22 amanda has joined the session 18:14:33 [Meredith] I think it really does depend on the population, Nancy. 18:14:51 [Dorothea] huh, that's interesting, I ran the same search except with "weblog" instead of "blog" and found almost nothing -- interesting linguistic shift there 18:15:04 [Dorothea] any other questions? 18:15:19 [luisrodas] I clearly agree that once you post something it will be there for as long as possible... but what about blogging something in a group and then having problems with one of the administrators of the blog? 18:15:34 [Dorothea] what sort of problems, Luis? 18:15:53 [luisrodas] Something like Library's information that should have been kept private... 18:15:53 [Tom Peters] Disagreements over editorial policies? 18:16:44 [Meredith] I know some library administrators want to see posts before people post them, which I see as quite a barrier. 18:16:54 [Dorothea] yes, I agree 18:17:00 [luisrodas] that is true... I also agree 18:17:19 [Dorothea] good old command-and-control thinking 18:18:09 [Tom Peters] Is it fairly easy to re-purpose a blog post as different types of publications, included printed docs? 18:18:39 [Dorothea] You can repurpose the keystrokes. You'll probably still have to do some layout work. 18:18:56 [carolmurphy] Is there a way to post a blog that no one can link to? I used a blog for a teen book group and there were hotlinks to a dating service. 18:19:29 [Dorothea] Carol, do you mean dating services linking *to* your blog, or links to dating services ending up in the blog's comments? 18:19:30 [shireen] are there archiving issues with blogs? if we end up putting valuable content on blogs, how long can we keep the content, and how can we search it? 18:19:41 [Dorothea] excellent question, Shireen! 18:20:39 [Dorothea] One thing to be aware of with hosted services like Blogger -- you own your words, you probably do NOT own the blog design! 18:20:49 [Dorothea] This can create problems for long-term archival. 18:21:32 [Dorothea] oh no! 18:21:50 samanthajohnson has joined the session 18:21:51 tiahedmunsonmorton has joined the session 18:22:08 candicewatkins has joined the session 18:22:09 bethtumbleson has joined the session 18:22:15 [reegan breu] are there hosted blog options where you can set it up with a password, so that it is only accessible to a specific group of people? 18:22:19 [Tom Peters] Is it possible to port a blog from one hosted platform to another? 18:22:20 [luisrodas] Is there any "publishing advise" about colors used in a blog? 18:22:37 [Dorothea] Tom: usually, but it can be a bit of a hassle 18:22:50 [Janelle Jarboe] I know wordpress.com will let you do that 18:23:29 [Dorothea] Luis: standard web-design advice applies, I think; sufficient contrast for low-vision patrons, decent font size, etc. 18:23:33 [reegan breu] thank you. 18:23:48 hollyristau has joined the session 18:23:51 [luisrodas] :-) 18:24:08 [Rebecca Hedreen] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHedreen_files/slide0019.htm 18:24:16 [mjmurrey] I've had a few people complain about my white on black background blog, but the feed solves this. 18:24:21 [Dorothea] With regard to porting: there's a new semi-standard in town called the Atom Publishing Protocol that should eventually make porting MUCH easier than it now is. 18:24:56 [Dorothea] http://houserdesign.com/ 18:25:07 [Rebecca Hedreen] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHedreen_files/slide0020.htm 18:25:27 [Rebecca Hedreen] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHedreen_files/slide0021.htm 18:25:33 [Dorothea] sorry, photoblog at http://photos.houserdesign.com/ 18:26:04 [Dorothea] http://infocult.typepad.com/dracula/ 18:26:35 [Rebecca Hedreen] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHedreen_files/slide0022.htm 18:26:39 [Dorothea] Also see the famous Pepys blog: http://www.pepysdiary.com/ 18:26:54 [Rebecca Hedreen] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHedreen_files/slide0023.htm 18:27:11 [Rebecca Hedreen] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHedreen_files/slide0024.htm 18:27:53 [Dorothea] So how do you manage the slide-to-slide transitions, Rebecca? 18:28:14 [Dorothea] aha 18:28:38 [Rebecca Hedreen] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHedreen_files/slide0025.htm 18:28:42 [Dorothea] does Blogger let you change a post's timestamp? ah, answered :) 18:28:42 [jillmarkgraf] what's the advantage to using a blog for a presentation rather than presentation software? 18:28:56 Meredith has left the session 18:29:30 [Tom Peters] Well, some people could post comments right as you're presenting! (could be a little unnerving for the presenter) 18:29:41 [Dorothea] neat, backchanneling! 18:29:59 Meredith has joined the session 18:30:29 [Rebecca Hedreen] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHedreen_files/slide0027.htm 18:31:21 [Rebecca Hedreen] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHedreen_files/slide0026.htm 18:31:26 [luisrodas] what about posting the CV in the "about me" page of your blog? 18:32:04 ritaennen has joined the session 18:32:08 [Dorothea] that would be possible, Luis 18:33:02 [tamara] could you send a link to the online research toolkit? 18:33:05 [hollyristau] Is the format shown on this page something you developed or part of your blogging program 18:33:56 [josalyngpl] Do search features - search your archives? 18:34:12 [Dorothea] http://ortpresentation.blogspot.com/2006/03/introduction.html 18:34:41 [josalyngpl] great thanks 18:34:46 [Dorothea] Wordpress's search feature is pretty weak. It's worth investigating plugins that beef it up a bit. 18:34:57 [luisrodas] I have just seen through the examples you gave and there is no "publicity" from any company. I like it not been used for that... what do you think are the bad things about posting some ads in the blog? 18:34:57 [Rebecca Hedreen] http://disedlibrarian.edublogs.org/start/ 18:35:06 [Dorothea] thanks, Rebecca! 18:36:06 [Meredith] I think posting ads on a library blog is a bad idea. I know some free sites (like PBWiki) have google ads attached, but the library has no control over what ads appear which is not a good thing 18:36:41 [Meredith] yeah, and on my space they can be pretty garish! 18:37:00 [Dorothea] yes, media literacy is a SERIOUS problem 18:37:14 [Dorothea] some of the Pew Internet studies establish that point 18:37:30 [luisrodas] There are some other addons you can post in a blog... like a youtube video... but sometimes those videos get deleted from their database... do you recommend using those videos? 18:38:52 missyvandusen has left the session 18:39:05 [luisrodas] what about using creative commons in the Library posts? 18:39:12 [reegan breu] can you provide us with the URL for your presentation or will we be able to connect to it via the 5-weeks blog? 18:39:26 [Dorothea] We'll post the link to the 5Weeks blog, Reegan. 18:39:46 ritaennen has left the session 18:39:59 [Dorothea] Courteous? 18:40:01 [Dorothea] jinx :) 18:40:04 [Janelle Jarboe] haha. 18:40:06 [luisrodas] I like that recommendation. 18:40:39 [shireen] do you ever feel the need to request permission from someone else to make a link to their material? 18:41:18 [Tom Peters] Is there a good source of usable images that can be put into a not-for-profit organization's blog? 18:41:39 [Dorothea] Tom: yes! Flickr's Creative Commons search, let me get the link... 18:41:46 [shireen] tom, i think creative commons has some ...already mentioned.. 18:41:57 [luisrodas] gettyimages 18:42:01 [Dorothea] http://www.flickr.com/creativecommons/ 18:42:37 [Janelle Jarboe] I gotta bookmark that 18:43:47 [Meredith] like Technorati? 18:44:05 [Meredith] it certainly makes things more "findable" 18:44:07 [Rebecca Hedreen] http://frequanq.blogspot.com/2005/11/image-resources.html 18:44:12 [Meredith] but I usually forget to do it personally 18:44:23 [Dorothea] It can, but it can also be useful. One common use I see is for conference-blogging -- everybody uses the same tag. 18:44:30 [luisrodas] Is there a way of adding a "chat" link or something like gmail chat room? will it be good? maybe for reference and/or as a comment are for discussion about wider subjects that are still not in any post? 18:44:57 [Rebecca Hedreen] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHedreen_files/slide0027.htm 18:44:58 [Rebecca Hedreen] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHedreen_files/slide0025.htm 18:44:59 [Rebecca Hedreen] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHedreen_files/slide0024.htm 18:45:05 [Rebecca Hedreen] javascript:GoToSld('slide0005.htm'); 18:45:05 [Rebecca Hedreen] javascript:GoToSld('slide0005.htm'); 18:45:05 [Rebecca Hedreen] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHedreen_files/slide0005.htm 18:45:10 [Meredith] you use Chatango, right, Rebecca? 18:45:11 [Rebecca Hedreen] javascript:GoToSld('slide0011.htm'); 18:45:11 [Rebecca Hedreen] javascript:GoToSld('slide0011.htm'); 18:45:11 [Rebecca Hedreen] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHedreen_files/slide0011.htm 18:45:13 [Rebecca Hedreen] javascript:GoToSld('slide0012.htm'); 18:45:13 [Rebecca Hedreen] javascript:GoToSld('slide0012.htm'); 18:45:13 [Rebecca Hedreen] http://www.opal-online.org/5weeksHedreen_files/slide0012.htm 18:45:28 [Dorothea] What do they call the little embedded chatboard things? Noticeboards? 18:45:49 [Dorothea] ah, yes, widgets! 18:45:50 [luisrodas] great! something like that sounds a good idea. 18:46:05 [Janelle Jarboe] chatango? 18:46:08 [Dorothea] oh, of course! 18:46:09 [Meredith] We use MeeboMe at our library! It's great! :) 18:46:20 [Rebecca Hedreen] http://www.chatango.com 18:46:22 [Dorothea] http://www.meebome.com/ 18:46:24 [Janelle Jarboe] Thank you. :) 18:46:57 [Dorothea] excellent question 18:47:03 [Meredith] lol! 18:47:31 [Meredith] I think having a posting schedule with distributed responsibilities can be a good idea 18:47:58 [Dorothea] And it can't hurt to build up some time-insensitive posts in draft for when work gets crazy. 18:48:19 [Tom Peters] good idea, Dorothea 18:48:54 [Meredith] Yes, I wrote a post for Week 4 back when I had more time! :) 18:49:10 [Meredith] good point!!! 18:50:06 [Dorothea] Depends on the blog software. Most will do this. Some also have RSS feeds for comments. 18:50:28 [mjmurrey] You might want to mention some form of tracking hits, etc. I use sitemeter and like it. 18:50:54 [Meredith] Yes, Wordpress has some great tools for site stats 18:51:30 [Meredith] they give you info about who has visited your blog, who is linking to you, etc. 18:51:49 [luisrodas] How can you spread the word about a new blog??? is there some places to add the blog to their list that you would recommend? 18:51:50 [Dorothea] Feedburner: http://www.feedburner.com/ 18:51:58 [Dorothea] great question! 18:52:09 [shireen] thanks Rebecca, must go and catch a bus... 18:52:13 shireen has left the session 18:52:22 [Dorothea] http://www.libdex.com/weblogs.html 18:52:29 [Dorothea] Thanks for coming, Shireen! 18:52:36 [Meredith] feed2js.org 18:52:39 [Rebecca Hedreen] http://feed2js.org 18:52:44 [Meredith] yes! 18:52:58 [Dorothea] http://pscontent.com/od2/opendirectory.php?browse=/Reference/Libraries/Library_and_Information_Science/Weblogs/ 18:53:18 [Dorothea] Another publicity tool is commenting on other blogs, using your blog's URL as a click-back link. 18:53:24 [Dorothea] Don't spam, though! 18:53:45 [Meredith] we do that on our library Website http://www.norwich.edu/academics/library/ (see right-hand sidebar) 18:53:58 [Meredith] we put the headlines on the front page :) 18:54:06 [Rebecca Hedreen] http://home.southernct.edu/~hedreenr1/contact.html 18:54:48 [Dorothea] There is also software to aggregate multiple blogs on a single web page. 18:55:11 [Dorothea] http://www.planetplanet.org/ 18:55:27 [Dorothea] for an example, see http://planet.code4lib.org/ 18:55:30 [Meredith] ack, we're going to give away all the fun RSS stuff for next week Dorothea! :) 18:55:40 [Dorothea] eh, that's all right -- reinforcement is a good thing! 18:55:44 [Meredith] lol 18:55:49 [Dorothea] Okay, five minutes left, folks! 18:55:54 [Dorothea] Last round of questions? 18:56:12 [hollyristau] Meridith, all these links are going to be available on the 5 weeks blog, correct? 18:56:22 [Meredith] yes, this will be archived 18:56:23 [luisrodas] How to choose the name of the blog? should it always be the Library's name? where to look for? 18:56:34 [Meredith] and there will be a link to Rebecca's presentation 18:56:38 [Dorothea] sorry, couldn't resist :) 18:56:44 [josalyngpl] I notice that Blogger and Wordpress other free blog software are being by a lot of people/libraries - do you find that the blog software that has a fee has features that are missed by using free software 18:56:54 [Meredith] It's hard to find a clever name! 18:57:22 [Dorothea] Josalyn: good question... in my experience, the free software tends to have more available features, but it may be a little harder to manage technically 18:57:31 [Meredith] I think LIGHTEN UP is a good piece of advice!!! 18:57:50 [Meredith] Your blog can really put a human face on the library 18:58:09 tiahedmunsonmorton has left the session 18:58:12 [Dorothea] Also keep in mind guidelines for writing on the web. 18:58:20 [Dorothea] Short sentences, lots of bullet points, short paragraphs, etc. 18:58:22 candicewatkins has left the session 18:59:17 [Dorothea] Second the recommendation for WordPress. 18:59:42 [Meredith] Thanks so much Rebecca! You're the best! 18:59:43 [mjmurrey] thanks rebecca 18:59:47 [josalyngpl] thank you everyone! 18:59:55 [mjmurrey] yeah this was helpful 18:59:59 [carolmurphy] thank you and good night 18:59:59 [Lauren McMullen] Thanks! 19:00:06 [mjmurrey] g'night 19:00:09 Lauren McMullen has left the session 19:00:09 [cristieferguson] Thanks! :) 19:00:10 carolmurphy has left the session 19:00:10 [Nancy Smith] Thanks. It was helpful! 19:00:11 [Rebecca Hedreen] http://21stcenturyprintingpress.blogspot.com 19:00:12 [Meredith] thanks everyone for coming! 19:00:12 karenbjork has left the session 19:00:12 [jini] thanks 19:00:14 [reegan breu] Thank you Rebecca! 19:00:19 mjmurrey has left the session 19:00:19 [tamara] thank you 19:00:22 cristieferguson has left the session 19:00:22 [bethtumbleson] Thanks 19:00:23 tamara has left the session 19:00:23 [Janelle Jarboe] Thank you! :) 19:00:24 jini has left the session 19:00:25 [luisrodas] good night! thanks! 19:00:28 Janelle Jarboe has left the session